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Author Topic: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [still alive!]  (Read 10401 times)

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Re: JIMBOVISION (scratch build rotating CP + rotating CRT upright)
« Reply #120 on: March 30, 2015, 05:26:38 am »

And here's a video of it rotating...  flippy flappy dust washers!  Not quite sure what to do about that...
wheeeeeeeee...



I love how you matched your fingernails with the joysticks  ;D


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Re: JIMBOVISION (scratch build rotating CP + rotating CRT upright)
« Reply #121 on: March 30, 2015, 06:59:35 am »

And here's a video of it rotating...  flippy flappy dust washers!  Not quite sure what to do about that...
wheeeeeeeee...



I love how you matched your fingernails with the joysticks  ;D

 :laugh2:  That's nothing.  You should see the wig and suspenders just out of view...

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Re: JIMBOVISION (scratch build rotating CP + rotating CRT upright)
« Reply #122 on: March 30, 2015, 10:58:05 am »
Wow. An LCD marquee, rotating CRT monitor with an Arduino to control the degaussing, automated rotating control panel, CAD design, CNC-cut parts, retro artwork...

The question is: why did I not notice this thread before?!  :P

This project is awesome!  :cheers:

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Re: JIMBOVISION (scratch build rotating CP + rotating CRT upright)
« Reply #123 on: April 30, 2015, 03:34:29 pm »
Sorry for the lack of updates.  It's the edge-lighting of the joysticks that is the bottleneck at the moment.  The spinners are done, the trackball and buttons all have lighting built in to them, it's just the joysticks that are causing me problems, but I think I've sorted it now.

Firstly on the defender/4-way panel, the defender joystick needs edge-lighting.  I've done it by using a 3mm plexi sheet and milling out a 2mm recess in the centre.  This means the joystick actually sits 1mm lower than it should be if it was mounted flush to the panel.  I think this should be ok and hopefully won't affect gameplay too much.  The artwork will go close to the shaft opening, leaving about a 4mm radius plexi ring around it exposed for edge-lighting...





The U360 was the other joystick (on the spinner panel) that was causing problems due to "bumps" around the mounting plate opening.  I've solved this inserting a 3mm plexi sheet between the U360 base and the metal mounting plate. Then I milled out a 2mm recess around the bumpy raised part so 1mm fits nicely over the top of it.  The mounting plate then sits flush on top.  This lowers the joystick by 3mm which doesn't seem too bad.  It also negates the need for a dust washer as the plexi ring kind of acts like one since it's so close to where the shaft sits.  This is good because I don't want flappy dust washers during the rotating of the panels.











On the defender/4-way panel, for the dedicated 4-way joysitck I had planned to bottom-mount a Dominux 8 with a 4-way restrictor, but this doesn't feel right, and doesn't lend itself very easily to edge-lighting.  I've switched this now to be a Pac Pro, which I really like the feel of.  This will be top-mounted with a 2mm plexi-sheet acting as a dust-protector (again solving flappy dust washer on rotation) sitting in the recess of the joystick base.  I'll be making the plexi insert and the metal plate very soon. Here's the idea...





Similarly, I'll be making a 1.5mm plexi insert for the 2x Dominux8's on the 2P panel.  I'll keep the dust-washers for these as they fit nicely in the joystick base recess (unlike the pac-pro!).  I already have the metal mounting plates made for these, so just the plexi sheets to mill...






So there you go... all the flappy dust-washers sorted, and the edge-lighting (I think!).  I'll need to make a couple of panel cuts to house these changes, but over the next couple of weeks it should all be done.  Then I'll finalise the artwork for the panels and order it, and then start the final panel preparations before applying the artwork.

I'll try not to leave it so long until the next update!

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Re: JIMBOVISION (scratch build rotating CP + rotating CRT upright)
« Reply #124 on: May 01, 2015, 10:59:20 am »
Wow.  Subscribed is all I can say.

 :o

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Re: JIMBOVISION (scratch build rotating CP + rotating CRT upright)
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2015, 04:45:48 am »
Got the 2 plexi inserts for the Dominux8s made.  These sandwich in-between the joystick base and the 2.5mm thick aluminium mounting plate.  They are made from 1.5mm clear plexi and leave a gap just big enough for the dust washer to sit under it.  The alu plate hole is 30mm diameter, the plexi is 26mm diameter.  The shaft at full throw is very close to the plexi but doesn't quite touch it.  The addition of the metal plate and the plexiglass does lower the joystick slightly, but it still feels nice.  Panel surface to top of balltop is 66mm.











Next up... the Pac-Pro for the dedicated 4-way panel!

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [edge-lighting the joysticks]
« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2015, 09:24:09 am »
Problem solved very nice  :applaud: :cheers:

looking good

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [edge-lighting the joysticks]
« Reply #127 on: May 07, 2015, 09:15:17 am »
cheers :)

Got the plexi insert and the mounting plate for the Pac Pro done last night... so that's all the edge-lighting bits taken care of....



Next up some final panel cuts and prep for the artwork :)

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [edge-lighting the joysticks]
« Reply #128 on: May 07, 2015, 10:50:11 pm »
WHAT !?!? :o

 :dizzy:

 :notworthy:

This is sure to be in the running for the 2015 awards.

 :cheers:

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [edge-lighting the joysticks]
« Reply #129 on: May 08, 2015, 04:05:37 am »
Hah, I don't think it'll be finished in time,  :laugh2:

Seriously though, thanks for the nice words.  :cheers:

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [edge-lighting the joysticks]
« Reply #130 on: May 10, 2015, 04:38:43 am »
Routed out for the defender joystick and the pac-pro on the middle panel.  That's it!  That's the last bit of routing on the panels - well, apart from making holes on the underside for some LEDs to go.  Woooooh!



I will be posting the final panels soon explaining all the controls and showing the proposed artwork for each panel.  It would be great to have your feedback on that before I order the artwork.

I'm thinking to get all the panels flat for the artwork I'll use some epoxy filler/resin to cover it all and then sand flat.  Not done that before so any hints/tips etc appreciated.

 :cheers:
 

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [edge-lighting the joysticks]
« Reply #131 on: May 10, 2015, 05:47:13 pm »
Here are the final control panel layouts, and the planned artwork.  Feedback welcome! :cheers:

PANEL 1



  • TurboTwist 2 Spinner, RGB edge-lit (x2)
  • Ultimarc U360 Joystick, RGB edge-lit
  • Electric Ice 2 w/True-Leaf Pro, RGB-Drive II (x8)
This panel is for driving games (with the mini-racer wheels), spinner games, and any games requiring the analog joystick (i.e. any non 2/4/8 way games).



PANEL 2


  • Defender Joystick, RGB edge-lit
  • Pac-Pro Joystick, RGB edge-lit
  • Electric Ice 2 w/True-Leaf Pro, RGB-Drive II (x8)
So this panel is for Defender/Stargate, Asteroids, and any other 2 or 4-way games.



PANEL 3


  • Dominux 8, RGB edge-lit (x2)
  • Ultimarc U-Trak Pearl
  • Electric Ice 2 w/True-Leaf Pro, RGB-Drive II (x8)
This panel is for all 1-player 8-way games, 4-way or 8-way 2-player games, along with any trackball games.  It's also for Robotron :D and I'll use it for any other emulation systems that need 8-ways.  Having the trackball on this panel means it'll be suitable as the mouse for Amiga/ST games etc.


I'm gonna order the artwork soon, so any feedback now's your chance! :)

:cheers:
« Last Edit: May 10, 2015, 05:50:19 pm by Jimbo »

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [final panel designs and artwork]
« Reply #132 on: May 11, 2015, 02:50:32 pm »
I really dig the retro color scheme and simple art. One thing stands out to me as looking kind of off though. The directional artwork around the joysticks looks a bit too "snow-flake"ish to me. It also looks a little too busy where the button art and other control art meet. I think it looks like 1 too many colors in those spots. Maybe if the orange were thicker so that the yellow wouldn't show up in the tight spots or if the yellow were all one background color or bigger enclosure shape (like an oval something) so the black outline didn't carry into the tight spots.

On another note... I've been working on coming up with a clean edge-lit joystick, spinner and TB system and now that you've posted yours, anything I come up with is going to look pretty shoddy. Good work on this awesome project.

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [final panel designs and artwork]
« Reply #133 on: May 11, 2015, 03:13:36 pm »
I agree with bfauska, they snowflaky bro.....


Also you're going to all that trouble to edge light the joysticks... the directional artwork shouldn't detract from it.

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [final panel designs and artwork]
« Reply #134 on: May 12, 2015, 08:51:08 am »
Thanks for your feedback guys.  :cheers:  On reflection I agree it is looking a bit busy... trying out some tweaks...  how about this for the 4-way, 8-way and defender joys...?



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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [final panel designs and artwork]
« Reply #135 on: May 12, 2015, 03:13:25 pm »
OK here are a few alternate designs.  Personally I like the bottom ones best (subtler, less busy) but interested to hear your feedback or suggestions.

Panel 1 (U360 in middle)



Panel 2 (defender joystick and 4-way pac-pro in middle)



Panel 3 (2 x dominux8 8-ways)



Thanks a lot for any feedback you can give.

 :cheers:

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [please critique my artwork!]
« Reply #136 on: May 12, 2015, 04:38:12 pm »
I think the bottom option on panel 2 and 3. Is there a version with the little nub directions for panel 1? I'd assume I'd vote for that too.

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [please critique my artwork!]
« Reply #137 on: May 13, 2015, 06:04:12 am »
I think the bottom option on panel 2 and 3. Is there a version with the little nub directions for panel 1? I'd assume I'd vote for that too.

Hmm yeah I'm leaning towards the bottom ones too...   the panel 1 joystick is a U360, which is why I left it as a circle.  My thinking was with the nub directions it would either look like it was indicating the joystick is a 8-way, or would just be too busy.

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [please critique my artwork!]
« Reply #138 on: May 13, 2015, 05:20:14 pm »
I think the bottom option on panel 2 and 3. Is there a version with the little nub directions for panel 1? I'd assume I'd vote for that too.

Hmm yeah I'm leaning towards the bottom ones too...   the panel 1 joystick is a U360, which is why I left it as a circle.  My thinking was with the nub directions it would either look like it was indicating the joystick is a 8-way, or would just be too busy.
Yeah, that makes sense for the analogue.

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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [please critique my artwork!]
« Reply #139 on: September 14, 2015, 12:04:49 pm »
Sorry for the lack of updates.  Life kinda got in the way.  I've gone over multiple revisions of the panel artwork and have finally chosen these ones, and have ordered them from gameongrafix...

All of the controls are sorted now, edge-lit plex, mounting plates etc.

It's been a long time getting to this point.  Once the artwork arrives I hope things will progress quicker - starting with the wiring!


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Re: JIMBOVISION: Rotating CP [still alive!]
« Reply #140 on: July 23, 2016, 06:01:34 pm »
Hmm...
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